Incubus fan?

Anyways, to your article...

Insults aren't always the last resort of desperate blogger. They often have nothing to do with being "painted into a corner" in a debate.

We are emotional beings. We get pissed off. We got hot. A comment gets under our skin. Another blogger irks us in ways we can't even begin to describe. We have bad days because of unrelated crap, and take it out on other people.

Sometimes we're just being funny and snarky.

I think you'd have quite a challenge trying to find a single frequent JU blogger who hasn't insulted someone else at one time or another.

Sure, it's not usually necessary, and rarely constructive, but in the heat of the moment, it feels so damn good.

The best way to combat this, Lucas, is to be the change that you want to see. Hold yourself to a higher standard. Refuse to insult others. Keep your threads clean.

Perhaps you'll inspire others. And if not, at least there will be a nice little no-fire zone in your neck of the woods, and Lucas Bailey will be known as the nice guy who treats others with respect.

Yep, as well as Creed, Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, Stained, Sum 41, Radiohead, Fastball, Tonic, Revis, The Calling, etc...

Granted, they are not always that way...betcha i could...

Yeah, it seems that humans in general are reactionary...we don't really think things out unless forced to (at least i've read that) (i know i am guilty of that)

I will, i can't say that won't in the future slip up, but we're only human...

I hope so, but there are those on JU that don't forget easily... ...and it is difficult to move on, to better myself, when the past is drudged up... and yeah, oughta have a advertisement: "Tired of insults, come check out Lucas's anti- insult zone..."

As always TW, thank you for your comments...


--lucas

If we were a bunch of lawyers, or JU forums and blogs were meant for professional debaters, I'd agree with you completely. However, neither is what JU is all about.

We all write articles and reply to others' comments for our own reasons. If those reasons include a few personal shots, so be it. For me, I come to JU for discussion, not debate. I don't look for winners or losers on a propostion, I look for entertaining, clever, or thought provoking points. I am just as likely to say "good article" over a clever personal shot than I am over a well written article. Some of the bloggers I like to read the most are those I don't expect to agree with.

well sometimes they sorta spice things up, get what i mean?

c.t.

Not all you mention are insults.  Some are merely descriptives.  I have tried to limit my use of LLL or at least qualify it to those it is best descriptive for. 

I would agree with this article if you had limited it to obscenities.  But as for the rest, they can be insulting, but mostly they are just derogatory, and depending upon who is using them and how, perhaps even a compliment.

Well, it depends on how the "insult" is taken, you can take it as and insult, or just shrug it off... I think most of life isn't what you get stuck with, but how you handle it... Derogatory/insulting, what is the difference...why does it need to be said...why does someone need to "feel good" by insulting another... It just doesn't seem right... the person who insults the other person just, IMO, "falls from grace", go from an interesting, respectful blogger to; "Ruh?" (to borrow this ) when i see certain bloggers do such things i 'm just

Some are merely descriptives

-Its all about perspective,...a conservative could "describe" liberals as LLL's...and not all are...TW is an example...

In the first place, a good insult is elegant in its construction, subtle in its wording, and dead on target. Calling someone an asshole is not an insult, its childish name calling.

-So you're telling me that certain profanities are constructinve, while others are destructive? C'mon, its like calling a black sheep in a group of white sheep, white...ya know its black, but you want to call it white....(bad analogy)

For me, I come to JU for discussion

I am just as likely to say "good article" over a clever personal shot than I am over a well written article

--So you're saying that an insult/personal shot is just as good an article? Or that you are likely to give an insightful for a "personal shot" you agree with...

Yet here he was, claiming he is NOT an anti-religious zealot.

--I am iffy on myrrander, at times i think he's "coming", but he is actually "going"...but i sometimes people will write articles that differ from their opinion, i learned that from one of my teachers, sometimes its good to see things from another pov...

There's nothing quite so satisfying as delivering a well timed and well worded zinger like that. It just feels so damn good, you know?

--No, i really don't...i've resorted to insults/"zingers" because i "rally" against what i perceive an injustice...its a "chink in my armor"...

I would agree with this article if you had limited it to obscenities

-whats the difference between profanity and obscenities? IMO they are one in the same...

-perhaps i am sticking my head into where it shouldn't be....but...

Ahh, piss off you freakin' whiner! JUST JOKING!

No, I don't insult hardly ever here and I can't in all honesty really remember a single incidence of ever doing so. It just seems so pointless. If I feel slighted I just do the oldest, best trick of all: IGNORE and go on. Works like a charm.

once in a while I read something so far fetched {my bill clinton article for instance} so infaMATORY THAT i JUST LOSE CONTROL, START DROOLING eyes glaze over and bang, nasty words come out of my fingers and on to my blog.

is it right? maybe not but it is what it is, as tex said we are human.

Ahh, piss off you freakin' whiner! JUST JOKING!

-Why you...! J/K

once in a while I read something so far fetched {my bill clinton article for instance} so infaMATORY THAT i JUST LOSE CONTROL, START DROOLING eyes glaze over and bang, nasty words come out of my fingers and on to my blog.

--down mod, we'll get you some tastey inflammatory treats later, don't go kicking...

is it right? maybe not but it is what it is, as tex said we are human

-Perhaps, this kind of proves my theory that humans are at there base, primal savages, no matter how far we try to distance our selves from it, it'll always be there, hiding...waiting...

--What...no more comments? ehh, its been good so far, lets continue...

--Do any of you think that there is a difference (in terms of morality, law, etc...) between a "civilized" human being attacking someone, and a human being that is "savage" like (i.e. they haven't developed emotionally, socially, etc...) ? Should they be treated the same? Or should they be treated as if they were a young child, taught what is right and wrong....

--So you're saying that an insult/personal shot is just as good an article? Or that you are likely to give an insightful for a "personal shot" you agree with...

Oh, I am just as likely to give an "insightful" to a shot from someone I disagree with as one from someone I agree with. Ask the regulars here at JU. I have often been known to openly congratulate a person for a well worded or clever shot against me.

Bill Cosby (once again) said it best:

"I have called my wife things that I was proud I could come up with. She has called me names that were so good, I wrote them down!" ;~D

How in the world did you come to that conclusion from this sentence?

--I have no clue...

Work on your reading comprehension skills a bit, and then we'll talk. And no, that's not an insult, its a suggestion

--Conprehension skills at times can be subjective....not always is what's said, what's meant....

(maybe i'm seeming illogical...but...)

Imagine you had eyes covering most of the surface of your head. One eye reports that the world looks like "this." Another eye reports that it looks like "that." Still another eye reports that it looks like something else, and you got this one eye that says the world is a song from The Music Man (huh? That eye is obviously not functioning at all...or is it?)

This is what I see as the nature of humans in the universe. Each of us an eye that sees things completely differently, but only because of the different mental directions we face that universe.

Now, consider that each eye thinks it is the only eye, and it's clear the some eyes will fight over what is "true." Some will view the fact that the differing viewpoints are an indication of some bigger concept and will be tolerant of the other eyes, some will not, and some will go back and forth between tolerance and insult. Whatever the case, it's a recipe for frustration.

That's where I think the insults come from. Frustration that everyone else doesn't "see" things as I do, and that they are as dead sure of what they see as I am about what I see. On some days I understand the nature of this multifaceted beast, and on some days, for reasons Ms. Wahine cited, "you're" (collective other eyes) just a freaking idiot See?

We(I) want so badly to be understood. We(I) long for oneness. Look how we congregate on a website to discuss what we see. Why would we if not to resolve our different perceptions? To stand around and agree "Yes, the sky IS blue...cool, you can close the site now, we're done here"? The views don't match like that, though, and when it gets really frustrating, some words just pop out in that frustration. At least the frustration is caused by a primarily noble impetus, no? To all see with the same eye?

Well, that's how *I* see it, and F right off if you don't!

OckhamsRazor...

Great point! In fact, what we call "motion sickness" is caused by the point you make. It occurs when our vision says one thing and our balance and motion report something else. It causes us to feel sickly, just like reading something that goes so vastly agaisnt our own sensibilities often does.