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Published on October 19, 2005 By ----- In Misc
Exactly as the title says, i am asking you, fellow Jousers, do you believe in such thing as having "past lives"?

I myself do indeed believe in it. More to the fact that there are things that i am drawn to, that cannot be explained, and, asking a close friend of my mothers, who she has known for many years (The mother of my best friends of 18 years), who my mother trusts iron cladly. Who is a channeler. I found out that (after wondering why i had such a draw to Germany, Egypt, Ireland and a few other locations) that i did indeed live in those places, in one of many past lives. Now, I'm not saying i was a powerful person, such grandiose statements are meaningless, because, I wasn't. According to her "guide" (for lack of a better term) I was an ordinary "joe" when i lived in egypt. While alive in germany, (around the time of the Nazi rule) i apparently served in the SS. In ireland, i was a head of a "clan" (for lack of the correct term). Now, I trust this lady completely, and have known her to be completely truthful and honest. Now, That doesn't mean i don't carry some speculation/scepticism on my shoulders.

I have had readings with her, where she has had made "predictions" (for lack of a better term), that have indeed come true, for instance, my sister meeting a "blonde haired, fair skinned 'cowboy' like fellow, who will treat her and her daughters right..." And, indeed, (from what she says, and what i have seen) This man, around the same age, is...perfect for her.

Another question is, "do you believe that the future is always in motion?" If so, then, "Is it plausible to say that when a psychic gets a prediction wrong, to say/think that perhaps, the reason they got it wrong was that the future changed..." Hmm?


Comments
on Oct 19, 2005
Ever wonder why people's past lives are always movie-of-the-week fare? I mean, how often do you hear someone say that in their past life they were an accountant from Indiana who lived a boring life and died at a ripe old age?

I think it is baloney, frankly, but I'll be the first to admit that I don't have an ounce more proof against it than anyone has for it. The afterlife is as much personal bunk for me as it is for anyone else. I can't prove my flavor any more than anyone else can.
on Oct 19, 2005
Ever wonder why people's past lives are always movie-of-the-week fare? I mean, how often do you hear someone say that in their past life they were an accountant from Indiana who lived a boring life and died at a ripe old age?


Weren't you the one who said it was always someone famous?

I think it is baloney, frankly, but I'll be the first to admit that I don't have an ounce more proof against it than anyone has for it. The afterlife is as much personal bunk for me as it is for anyone else. I can't prove my flavor any more than anyone else can.


True, and frankly i don't have any physical evidence, i have my word and hers...

on Oct 21, 2005
'Exactly as the title says, i am asking you, fellow Jousers, do you believe in such thing as having "past lives"?'
I am a skeptic. I am - in theory - open to persuasion, but currently no. And before you tell me how uncanny this person's readings were, any persuasion will have to be scientific, NOT anecdotal.
on Oct 21, 2005
Hmmm.....well, i trust this person...so, thats good enough for me... but my main point is whether or not the future is constantly in motion, because if it is, then it debunks those who say all psychics are frauds...cause, how do you know...? What if, the future changed yet again....and made the prediction null...

Hmmm?
on Oct 21, 2005
If the future changed and nullified the prediction, why didn't the psychic foresee the change and predict that instead?

That's a completely incorrect use of the word debunk, by the way. To "debunk" means to "demonstrate scientifically that an outlandish claim is specious." What you have just done is to promote instead another completely untestable, unscientific excuse for continually getting things wrong.
on Oct 21, 2005
(Not that I want to sound rude or anything.... You can probably guess that I'm quite skeptical myself.)
on Oct 22, 2005
'but my main point is whether or not the future is constantly in motion'
How can a time that hasn't happened yet be doing anything in the present tense, let alone be doing anything CONSTANTLY (i.e. over time)? This is one of those gravitas-laden pseudo-scientific statements that might sound very convincing but starts falling to pieces the instant you try to establish what - if anything - it actually means.

'Not that I want to sound rude or anything....'
I don't think you sound rude, citahellion. Lucas asked the question, after all.

'To those who are Anti-Psychic,etc... #2'
I forgot to say earlier - I tend to regard myself not as 'anti-psychic' so much as 'pro-evidence'!
on Oct 28, 2005
don't think you sound rude, citahellion. Lucas asked the question, after all.


true...

How can a time that hasn't happened yet be doing anything in the present tense, let alone be doing anything CONSTANTLY (i.e. over time)? This is one of those gravitas-laden pseudo-scientific statements that might sound very convincing but starts falling to pieces the instant you try to establish what - if anything - it actually means.


--My point is, the future is constantly changing...a pscyhic may predict a certain event happening, and, something happens to deter it.... (for example, if 9/11 never happend because the hijcakers were caught...)

on Oct 28, 2005
But his point is, to say 'the future is constantly changing' is like saying 'crimson is constantly hungry'. It has no semantic content, no valid meaning. It's just a cheap excuse.
on Oct 28, 2005
But his point is, to say 'the future is constantly changing' is like saying 'crimson is constantly hungry'. It has no semantic content, no valid meaning. It's just a cheap excuse.


Ouch, let me guess, you specialize in low blows? It is a valid idea, so go bark up yer own damn tree....


The thought that we make our future, is not crazy, each and everyone's actions determines their future...do they not? So why is it..."crazy" to say, that with each action, of each individual in the world...that the future changes as a result?

Hmmm...?