8 Questions for Gays/Lesbians,etc...

Published on September 6, 2005 By ----- In Misc

These are some questions for all peoples here at JU that prefer the same sex. Its to try and understand, from your words/point of view. As i have been chastisized for some harsh comments.

1. At what age did you determine your sexual preference?

2. How did this come about?

3. How long did it take you to "come out" after your Revelation?

4. How did your friends and family react?

5. Do you feel that homosexuals are legitimately/illegally persecuted in the U.S.?

6. Have you experienced persecution?

7. Do you feel that the attitude of the country is shifting (or will shift with time) in your favor?

8. How do you feel when you hear some Christians tell you homosexuality is wrong and is a sin?

Comments (Page 1)

Champas Socialist

on Sep 07, 2005

Anyone wanna take bets on how long it'll take for some bigot to come in and berate all the "homosexuals" who respond to this questionnaire earnestly?

-----

on Sep 07, 2005

Ehhh, i could. But what purpose would it serve?

dabe

on Sep 07, 2005

So, what is the point of this quesionaire? If you're so interested, why don't you read a book on the subject. Do an internet search for some gay/lesbian websites. Do your own homework, if you're so interested, instead of setting up the gay community here for a bashing.

A good link to start is Alas,a blog Link The authors have posted a ton of links along the right sidebar that are categorized by subjects. Tons of good stuff. But, you won't find very many, if any rightie sites. No surprise.

dabe

on Sep 07, 2005

One more thing......

When you get the answers to the questions you posed above, I'd be very interested in reading what you have learned.

dharmagrl

on Sep 07, 2005

So, what is the point of this quesionaire?

I had wondered the same thing.

Btw, Lucas, what's the point of the 'etc' in the title?

dharmagrl

on Sep 07, 2005

When you get the answers to the questions you posed above, I'd be very interested in reading what you have learned

Me too. Are you asking because you're genuinely interested, or because you thought it was a contraversial subject that would garner you a lot of responses?

if you motive was the latter...well, it fell flat on it's face, didn't it?

new-age nomad

on Sep 07, 2005

Well said, LW.....for once....

Trinitie

dabe

on Sep 07, 2005

I asked bailey a stinkin' question. I do not need your bullshit interference, whip, and your constant attacks. Holy shit, girl, get a life.

-----

on Sep 07, 2005

The point of the quesstionare is, in the past i have made comments against gays/lesbians,etc... with out actually doing anything, i assumed based on how i was raised. I realize now that i was foolish, i want to understand.

Btw, Lucas, what's the point of the 'etc' in the title?

-Come to think of it, i don't know. I think it was just an automatic thing.

Are you asking because you're genuinely interested,

-Yes.

suppose it never once occurred to you that maybe Lucas thinks he himself might be gay and would like to actually converse with other gay people about his own sexuality? That this was merely an attempt to open such a dialogue?

-That is something i am looking at, though i am unsure, and wary...

EmperorofIceCream

on Sep 07, 2005

To Bailey:

firstly, don't let these PMSing bitches get to you. Your motive for doing it is no one's business but yours, and is irrelevant to whatever answers might be given. And as for Ms. Birkenstock and her tender concern... thanks, but no thanks.

1. At what age did you determine your sexual preference?

I determined my first sexual preference at age 13, when I first had sex with another boy in my class at school. He was 14. Evidently, my preference at that time was for my own sex.

2. How did this come about?

He seduced me. He was the biggest, meanest kid in class. He had maniacally brilliant blue eyes and his hair was the colour of high-polished brass, dazzlingly yellow. And he took great delight in beating up anyone who pissed me off - he beat people up anyway but I gave him another reason for doing it. And as I found out later, anatomically he was well endowed - especially for a 14 year old. I couldn't have asked for anything more.

3. How long did it take you to "come out" after your Revelation?

I never did, until I became a Christian, when I renounced it altogether, having been redeemed and forgiven, then baptised, first in water and then in the spirit. Only none of that ever remotely addressed the desire I felt. I felt it and denied it for years.

I testified to my homosexuality at my water baptism - because I believed (as in had faith in) the idea that it had been 'covered by the blood' and 'washed away'. Since I denied the desire I labelled its appearance as Satan's temptation lol, and thought of myself as a failure.

4. How did your friends and family react?

It was lost in the far greater shock of my becoming a Christian. Later, I discovered it had been a matter of importance only to me, coming as I do from a family that views sex more as fate and necessity than anything subject to moral questioning.

5. Do you feel that homosexuals are legitimately/illegally persecuted in the U.S.?

I don't think homosexuals are persecuted per se. And I wish they'd quit bitching, whining, and making a general embarrassment of themselves over this so-called persecution.

Like the kid with the glasses and the weird teeth in the schoolyard they're bullied occasionally - but that isn't quite the same thing. And let me pre-empt all you faggots (straight and gay) who are going to bring up Hitler at this point - Hitler was the exception that proves the rule. In general they're not subject to the application of industrial technique to the production of mass death.

6. Have you experienced persecution?

Sure, but not because of my sexuality.

7. Do you feel that the attitude of the country is shifting (or will shift with time) in your favor?

America is so fucked in the head over sex in general and homosexuality in particular that I firmly believe that the shibboleth of antipathy to homosexuality will never alter - though I believe also that homosexuals will eventually achieve full formal recognition and equality in law with heterosexuals.

8. How do you feel when you hear some Christians tell you homosexuality is wrong and is a sin?

Completely indifferent. There are 32 years between 45 and 13 and simple experience teaches you a lot. If I had a first preference I might also have a second and a third - as I do. After my own sex came the opposite sex. After women came acceptance that neither sex alone satisfies me. And along the way I've left the Church, ceased to be a Christian, and found a spirituality that let's me be myself. Which is not to say I flaunt my polymorphous perversity, I don't.

But that's because I recognize the distinction between public and private, as well as the presence of that animosity already mentioned, so that out of civility and cunning I keep my life to myself.

dharmagrl

on Sep 07, 2005

-Come to think of it, i don't know. I think it was just an automatic thing.

Ah, a 'Lucas'ism'. Yeah, I've noticed that you do that.

firstly, don't let these PMSing bitches get to you

Oy, I don't PMS anymore. I'm just a common-or-garden bitch, not a PMS-ing one, thanks very much.

Lucas, I'm going to take you on face value here and tell you that Phoenixboi might be a good person to talk to about this. I'm always available to chat as well (dharmagirl69@gmail.com or my yahoo IM ID is dharmagirl69), but I'm not gay so I might not be of much help. Like I said, I'm taking this like you mean it, as are other people....so make sure that you're sincere because this is NOT the kind of subject that you want to fuck around with people's feelings over.

dabe

on Sep 07, 2005

The point of the quesstionare is, in the past i have made comments against gays/lesbians,etc...

Thank you for actually stating this and being so forthcoming. I have seen some of your comments, and frankly I didn't trust you. I admire your true interest, and I accept your response. I do hope the link I provided to you is useful.

As for whip sweety, get a life.

InfoGeek

on Sep 07, 2005

(and lucas? be sure look up the big words before you respond, heehee.)

I only had to look up: shibboleth.

A word used in Judges and the West Wing.

I are InfoGeek

dabe

on Sep 07, 2005

whipsy, I'm waiting for a freakin' apology from you. Since when are you bailey's spokesperson? Excuse me for this condescention thang, but you know what they say about projection.........

Get a life, sugar.

dabe

on Sep 07, 2005

very dumb answer, whip. You're not anyone's spokesperson but your own, thank god. And, you know what. You are so freakin wrong, it's pathetic.

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